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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:25:47 GMT

@Dashrender said: To make these claims as standards, at least to me, means that the average IT person would have this knowledge, and hopefully be applying it. I say that this is not the case. That the...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:23:06 GMT

To make these claims as standards, at least to me, means that the average IT person would have this knowledge, and hopefully be applying it. I say that this is not the case. That the average IT person...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:16:40 GMT

@Dashrender said: @scottalanmiller said: @Dashrender said: I may have been considered a best practice to move everything to a datacenter since the 1990's (I missed that memo though), but as we know,...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:14:48 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: @Dashrender said: I may have been considered a best practice to move everything to a datacenter since the 1990's (I missed that memo though), but as we know, the filtering of...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:14:34 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: Likewise, you are taking your own experience and claiming that no one knows things because you don't know them. You aren't the end all of knowledge and experience. I am not...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:10:13 GMT

I'll admit, assuming that my experience isn't special holds people to a fairly high bar, in theory. But the alternative is worse, right?

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:27:54 GMT

@Dashrender said: Where were you working when you learned that critical services should be moved to a DC and not locally hosted? what were the circumstances of that learning? Likely at a hotel doing...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:29:35 GMT

@Dashrender said: I'm asking because I feel that they will be unusual circumstances compared to the experiences of most IT, especially SMB IT personal. Unusual I don't think. I think most people had...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:33:11 GMT

It was during that time that I did my MCSE+I and most of my CompTIA certs, for example. The entry level certs that helped to get me into the field. Coming from software engineering, back then, did...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:34:02 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: @Dashrender said: And while I do believe all of that to be true from your numbers, It's still going to cost a company more money than self hosting. So you believe and don't...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:35:50 GMT

@Dashrender said: So with that in mind, my associate left employ of that company about 7 years ago, so I guess he got out just about the time this would have been filtering down to his level. Seven...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:38:01 GMT

@Dashrender said: @scottalanmiller said: So you believe and don't believe at the same time? Why will it cost more? I know companies that have saved money doing it. So there are two parts here. The...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:48:51 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: That's a big assumption. Why would it not be at least possible that having high end datacenter services is cheaper than doing it poorly in house? It is cheap for Ford to build me...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:51:11 GMT

@Dashrender said: It's truly inconceivable to me that that it would be possible to host a server in a DC less than you can in house. Of course this makes a few assumptions. in-house I don't pay a fee...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:52:47 GMT

@Dashrender said: DC is trying to make money on the floor rental space Keep in mind each server only uses a few square inches. They stack 42U high in like eight square feet.

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:53:44 GMT

@Dashrender said: no shared services, mainly, the ISP used for an in-house server can be shared with the rest of the business, but the same goes for HVAC. But they are shared equally in both cases. So...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:55:58 GMT

@Dashrender said: Hosting a server onsite where I'm mainly ensuring I have a UPS that lasts long enough to shut the server down in case of a power outage is pretty darned cheap. The UPS cost per server...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:56:44 GMT

@Dashrender said: The issue here is spending - many SMBs just won't spend what is really needed to provide best practices. There is no defense for that. You're right - I guess I was making excuses...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:01:28 GMT

I think one thing that affects at least some SMBs that I know is the availability of only one internet provider. Around here if you aren't in the city or suburban area, you may only have one option. If...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:05:43 GMT

@johnhooks said: I think one thing that affects at least some SMBs that I know is the availability of only one internet provider. Around here if you aren't in the city or suburban area, you may only...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:23:21 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: @johnhooks said: I think one thing that affects at least some SMBs that I know is the availability of only one internet provider. Around here if you aren't in the city or...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:24:59 GMT

@johnhooks said: @scottalanmiller said: @johnhooks said: I think one thing that affects at least some SMBs that I know is the availability of only one internet provider. Around here if you aren't in...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:43:55 GMT

@Dashrender said: It's truly inconceivable to me that that it would be possible to host a server in a DC less than you can in house. Of course this makes a few assumptions. in-house I don't pay a fee...

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Reply to OSPF and BMG Usage in Networking on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:33:31 GMT

@PSX_Defector said: @Dashrender said: It's truly inconceivable to me that that it would be possible to host a server in a DC less than you can in house. Of course this makes a few assumptions. in-house...

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